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[Very deliberate (and deliberated over) video]

[Ky's sitting in his apartment. It's afternoon now, and he's spent since midnight thinking about this, almost entirely off the network. But it's clear that the solution isn't just thinking, and that he can't implement his desired solution on his own.]

It's become apparent that one thing this place is suffering from is a severe lack of justice. There always remained the question of once we caught the murderer what could be done to keep them separate in what passes for society here, to keep them from hurting another.

And now, failed joke or not, a woman lies dead. And we do know who is responsible.

Are we really going to sit back, be distressed and discomfited, but do nothing?

Or is it time to set up some system of justice? -- Not vengeance, that's not what I'm recommending, but there needs to a rehabilitation process.

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If not then they'll have to be detained indefinitely.

...At which point we may as well attempt to continue to rehabilitate them.

That seems the best plan. However we'd have to watch our standards for "needing rehabilitation". I highly doubt that Vatheon provides a prison already and, even so, there's the problem of overfilling. But I suppose we'd cross that bridge when we come to it.

I'd imagine that we can convert one of the apartment buildings to some kind of detention system if necessary.

Are there no empty buildings aside from the apartments?

I simply thought that the apartments would be well suited to it. I'm sure that not all the other buildings are in use.

I don't know how strong the apartments are in comparison to others. Have you searched the city to see if there's something more suited for this kind of thing?

Not yet. Certainly I shall.

[He's going to be busy for a while, he supposes, between that and other things he needs to address. Good.]

[Jade nods.]

I would be happy to assist if needed.

Thank you.

Can you tell me what forms justice takes where you're from? Both within the military context and outside of it, if they're different.

[Ugh, explaining.]

I'm unsure if it's different from yours. In the case of criminals, they're given a fair trial under someone qualified to make the decision- either an official or an appointed judge. In some cases His Majesty is requested to take part in the ruling for the higher cases. If they're guilty, they are punished accordingly. Those who are mentally unwell are taken to complexes where they are facilitated and hopefully made well again by professionals.

In the terms of military punishment, there are, of course, different levels for different crimes. Small things are given warnings and enough warnings warrants a dishonorable discharge from service. Larger things, such as traitorous acts or defection, are met with both dishonorable discharge as well as imprisonment.

There's more to each but those are the basics. I doubt you want me to prattle on forever.

[More like he really doesn't.]

[Explaining. The only way to start to reach a consensus.]

If I could ask you to for a little longer, would you mind speaking as to whether the 'fair trials' are just the official or judge, or is there any aspect of a jury in there?

[A sigh and Jade rubs his temples.]

If it's a public case, a group of citizens might be called in. More often than not it's simply the official or judge. Very few times have we required or called on the other citizens.

I see.

I think something with a jury would suit here better, simply because we have more peers and less people trusted to make binding judgements.

It's because of that that a peer jury might be less ideal. people here are suspicious of others, and not everyone wants to take the moral highground. Most people would rather see suspicious people locked away rather than debate over the innocence of someone they're not connected to.

Interesting, although I feel that the suspicion is sufficient that any attempt to take the moral high ground by a single person would cause them to be viewed with more hostility.

It depends on where people are grounded, of course. People here, as far as I've met, want the best for themselves and those they've grown connected to. But that's like taking a cup from a lake and saying the water is clean based on that. If anything, most people have a bias in one or the other direction- justice and peace versus selfish welfare and gain no matter the cost- whether they know it or not. If anything, you'd have to go through a lengthy process of screening people and have a set jury. Or simply appoint a judge from those you can trust to make fair and accurate decisions.

After all, justice is more a headache these days~

[Jade isn't huge on the subject of morality, but in his experience, people will take the easier way of condemning someone than to sit and talk it out. No one likes just talking these days.]

Justice may be a headache, but that doesn't make it any less worth doing. I wouldn't feel simply appointing a judge because my opinion does not necessarily represent Vatheon's and my appointment would reflect my own opinion.

I never said it was~

[He seems to think, then shakes his head.]

I don't think there's any one person or group of people who truly 'represent' Vatheon's opinions. Given that the ruling body is a coral, there's little doubt that the justice system, though nonexistent, might be biased.

I suppose I mean something different when I speak of Vatheon -- mostly I mean the people who have been brought here. We don't per se accept the coral as ruling body.

Either way, it's our obligation to make our justice system as unbiased as possible.