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Thom, if I ever look like acting the hero again, you kick me - [Voice]

[Filtered away from Rand and Perrin]

There's going to be a battle back in my world shortly after my friends and I return. Longer for Perrin than for me, but not that longer. We're not sure if we'll survive. [Quieter:] Or if our flaming world will survive.

[A pause]

But since we have time before Tarmon bloody Gai'don here...Any ideas for things the three of us could do? [Should he mention that they're all married? Nah, that can wait for any of that kind of suggestions.]

Oh, and one of us is missing his dominant hand, so try to make it things you can do one handed. [His eye doesn't affect much though. Well, it does. But he won't say that.

Yep. That's it. Just a request for ideas of things to do while they're here.]

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I agree with you there. Which is why there isn't any hope if he wins.

Then you'll have to simply not let him win. I wish that I could help.

If there was a way for you to come back with us, that would help. From what I've heard, there probably isn't a way.

[Whitecloaks, Aes Sedai, Ogier, raken, damane, Asha'men, Wolfbrothers...]

Every person able to fight in Tarmon Gai'don with us helps.

If I could, I would, but it's possible that you won't even retain your memory from here.

My memory wouldn't have much do to with accepting your help. [As long as he didn't have holes in his memory again.]

If you can fight, and from what you've said you can probably flaming fight, then it wouldn't matter.

I just meant that it seems impossible to get anything like a person out. Although who knows, perhaps the coral is capable of it.

Yes, I can fight.

Oh. You meant that if memories are gone, what's the chance of someone going to a different world.

[Normally, probably very low. With his luck...only time would be able tell, really]

Right.

Beyond that... I do have obligations to my own world, if it were possible to choose to leave here.

I'm sure everyone has obligations to their own world. The fact that you offered is to help if you could is enough as it is.

If there's anything I can do to help while we're here, don't hesitate to ask.

Thank you. If you think I can help, ask. Might not be able to help though, depending on what it is.

There's very little...by way of current threat here, I suppose. Although we suffer the usual problems of taking a number of people from such different places.

Tell me, what is justice like, where you come from?

It depends on what country you're in. Andor's laws and trials are...well, just. The Whitecloaks don't even give you a chance to prove your innocence; if you disagree with them, you must be guilty.

There are a lot of other countries with different justice systems.

Ah, yes. And the system that you refer to as just...

Does it presume innocence if there isn't evidence, or is it simply that it gives you the opportunity to show that evidence?

Gives you the opportunity to show evidence, and testimonies of witnesses if there are any. It isn't always right, but from what I've seen it's been right most of the time. No system is always right. Both Elayne and Morgase have always beat themselves up when they give the wrong sentence and find out later.

[If only he could say that about the Whitecloaks....]

[Ky nods eagerly, even if Mat can't see him.]

I think the capability of the judges to feel remorse often speaks well to their abilities to make such momentous decisions.

Seems so, yeah. Whitecloaks never seem to show any remorse, even when proven that they were wrong.

[Can you tell that he really doesn't like Whitecloaks--]

[Ky can. Not that that helps that much.]

What are whitecloaks, if I may ask?

They call themselves the Children of the Light. They...are like guards almost, except they wander from country to country and enforce their own bloody rules wherever they go, regardless of what that country's monarch wants. They assume that if someone disagrees with them, that that person is a Darkfriend. They immediately assume if someone denies being a Darkfriend, that they are a Darkfriend. And they believe all Darkfriends must be killed. If you are given over to a Questioner, the Whitecloaks call them something else, you are tortured into saying you are a Darkfriend. And that's what they call a trial.

How does your political system allow them to continue to operate?

[Such a system sounds...unstable, and terrible. But the instability should take care of the other, surely?]

I don't know! I'm not a bloody noble, I grew up on a farm and now I'm a flaming general. I keep out of that sort of things.

[--Well, he might be a noble. The Seanchan are awful strange after all.

Blood and ashes, he's not flaming sure how the Whitecloaks continue to function]

Ah?

[Ky's no sort of noble, but noble's a rather outdated concept on his world ~~other than the fact that he will be king~~.]

It's not a matter that your military is concerned with?

My army? No. We stay out of things. Especially Whitecloak things. Sure they're insufferable, but the Band and I can't do much about them. We aren't exactly tied to any bloody country.

I'm not certain that I follow, but I'm sure that you know your situation better than I could hope to. Thank you, for your explanation of justice on your world, though.

Bloody ashes, I should hope I know the flaming situation better than you do or I could ever explain.

And it wasn't any trouble.

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